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SageMother

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U.N. Raises Environemental Alarm

Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:43:36 PM #43413 Perm Link

I read an article stating that the U.N. has issued a Doomsday Announcement stating the world cannot continue to support the human in habitants. What global measures do you think should be taken to slow our progression to oblivion?

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Aron Schatz

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Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:57:41 PM #43417 Perm Link

We'll get off this rock. That's my solution and my dream.

Space is the place for me.

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Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:23:52 PM #43423 Perm Link

I'm going with you Aron. Space would seem like an ideal place to go.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:09:28 AM #43465 Perm Link

Space kicks ass. Maybe it would turn into Gundam.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:17:39 AM #43473 Perm Link

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Hopefully not.

We don't need more wars.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:46:18 AM #43480 Perm Link

I don't see it as a global measure. I think every coun try should impose measures, specially the US and China. And we should all be doing out part.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:44:45 AM #43481 Perm Link

Discontinue welfare. People nowadays have children just so they can have a nice income tax return. Welfare aids those people, therefore, people begin to "work" the system. This is one of the main problems this world faces.

Space would be cool and all but who is to say that we wont follow our past mistakes? The past lingers as a shadow. People are neither aware consciously nor unconsciously of it unfortunately. Otherwise why are we reliving past failures?

Mecha would be nice to have, war though like Aron said would be inevitable though. Plus like in Gundam Seed Huge Grin

estiny people might start wars to to gain profits on mecha!

Another solution, according to my ginger friend here, is a nuclear war. I for one am not trying to go out in a Gundam and start fighting. The pilots that die in the Gundam series die HARD HORRIBLE deaths! I rather die just getting shot or something, not blown,sliced, or mutilated.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:45:06 AM #43482 Perm Link

http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/green-news/doomsday-announcement/ heres the article

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:00:48 AM #43484 Perm Link

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AGREE WITH DISCONTINUING WELFARE.

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:06:11 PM #43493 Perm Link

Im going to sit here and deny it, until it doesn't exist anymore, problem solved more naruto plz

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:31:45 PM #43503 Perm Link

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Then you would be dwelling in ignorance sev lol. Naruto is not going to do a Odoma (spelling)Rasengan on the world's inhabitants. It would be pretty freaking awesome though! heheheh

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:39:36 PM #43506 Perm Link

stop welfare and well people need to stop having kids!!!

damn break needs to be longer!

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:41:29 PM #43508 Perm Link

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if it were only that easy...

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:20:20 PM #43511 Perm Link

Well , I think space is the place. But how do we all get there.?? Its along way from happening, so we better learn to live with what we have. And hopefully help our fellow man in the process. Some of these posts are just plain stupid! So young and inocent!

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:25:38 PM #43514 Perm Link

but even if we do get out of here, how will we get any modern conveniences out there? like internet and tv's and anime!
we would still have to create our own O2 or completely teraform the planet. what planet anyway?!

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:04:52 PM #43545 Perm Link

Well I think the more intelligent way to go about is first establish a lunar colony, from there establish another space station, then develop Xenon based engines to travel to Mars(at this present time the only planet thats probably habitable). That is of course if scientists don't develop a light speed traveling craft.

I wanna know why cant this world be like Final Fantasy VIII they developed a cannon that could send you to the moon in less than 15mins. If we can take that concept and apply it reality, life would be much more fascinating!

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Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:10:01 AM #43563 Perm Link

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The acceleration to do that would kill you.

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Fri Nov 2, 2007 9:07:14 AM #43671 Perm Link

I think if everyone started to live a more green life then that would at least be a step in the right direction. Recycle, give back , stop using things that are so harmful to the environment.

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Fri Nov 2, 2007 10:19:53 AM #43675 Perm Link

I just want to go into space.

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Fri Nov 2, 2007 1:29:58 PM #43690 Perm Link

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Not if there are gravitational stabilizers! Smile

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Sat Nov 3, 2007 1:01:44 AM #43706 Perm Link

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If only there were more like you that was concerned 50 years ago this planet might have a chance. As it stands right now, we are going to run out of clean air and clean water within the next hundred years. We might even run out of land if the ice caps keep nothing that way they do. It is like the old saying "day late and dollar short".

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Sat Nov 3, 2007 9:40:11 AM #43710 Perm Link

I think that we need to educate the next generation on how to live more green. Along with doing it ourselves now.

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Sat Nov 3, 2007 1:46:36 PM #43725 Perm Link

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Discontinue welfare. People nowadays have children just so they can have a nice income tax return. Welfare aids those people, therefore, people begin to "work" the system. This is one of the main problems this world faces.

I fail to see the relationship between people on welfare and the corporate activities that add to much of the pollution that threatens us. Most of those on welfare arent' having children for the express purpose of remaining on welfare, where I live anyway. Instead, their major issue is affording decent reliable birth control.

Care to elaborate on the welfare issue? I am curious.

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Sun Nov 4, 2007 9:29:00 AM #43753 Perm Link

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We'll get off this rock. That's my solution and my dream.

Space is the place for me.

It would be lovely if extremist groups could get their own planets! That way, they can enforce the laws they want and leave the rest of us to enjoy our lives as we see fit!

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:15:53 PM #44194 Perm Link

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It would be lovely if extremist groups could get their own planets! That way, they can enforce the laws they want and leave the rest of us to enjoy our lives as we see fit!

SageMother, you are a genius. also traveling at or beyond lightspeed is quite impossible, I hate forcing theory of relativity down people's throats...

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:30:12 PM #44210 Perm Link

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Tachyons travel at light speed as do photons...

Accelerating to light speed is impossible.

Remember, there are other ways to cross long distances than traditional travel.

The concept of warp travel is actually not FTL drives. It is the process of creating a warp bubble and in your reference frame, you aren't traveling faster than light.

I'd rather see worm hole travel like in Freespace 2. Open a rift and go.

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:23:38 PM #44215 Perm Link

maybe they could make a law or somethin that ppl cant have more than a certain amount of kids cause theres also ppl who want to have kids and they cant even afford to have them and they want like a thousand I mean come on ppl! wtfff is wrong with you!!! haha uhmm coff cofff yeah well Im not sure if space is a choice cause we are going too fast... ppl are just gonna die and were gonna finish with our own world it would b hard to change everybodys mind so that they could care a little more about the world...

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:36:13 AM #44379 Perm Link

SageMother
I read an article stating that the U.N. has issued a Doomsday Announcement stating the world cannot continue to support the human in habitants. What global measures do you think should be taken to slow our progression to oblivion?
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Global measures. With all the smaller countries warring on each other and the tense relationships between the larger countries what makes you think anyone’s going to agree on a global action solution?
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--Konojo
Discontinue welfare. People nowadays have children just so they can have a nice income tax return. Welfare aids those people; therefore, people begin to "work" the system. This is one of the main problems this world faces.

Space would be cool and all but who is to say that we won’t follow our past mistakes? The past lingers as a shadow.
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Discontinue Welfare. Hmm. Yes, that would fix a lot of problems but it would also cause a few in time. I do know about a lot of (mostly Mexican) “Aliens” that jump into our country and have “Anchor babies” and leech off the welfare that my taxes are paying for, and that’s a huge waste of food and time, most cases people aren’t even working to try to better themselves. So a slap to the face for them would be a great wake up call to get them motivated.
However I do also know people who are trying to work and take care of their families and go to school who don’t work the system like that. It’s hard. What needs to happen is they need to keep background checks on people and monthly visits to see if the people are trying to work and see what their house/apartment looks like on the inside. Sadly, there are not enough Welfare employees to check all the people living on Welfare yet.
So I guess you’re right.
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Past mistakes. Exactly what I’d be afraid of. People have grown to be so lazy and creatures of habit. Working a new planet would take a lot of hard work and sacrifices and to be honest I don’t think a majority of humans could handle that. Especially after we’ve settled, not ruining it like Earth. People know that they’re not supposed to waste but they will anyway because over the generations it’s been almost bred in.
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I think I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time
I think I've forgotten this before. . .

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:36:27 AM #44380 Perm Link

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But even if we do get out of here, how will we get any modern conveniences out there? Like internet and TV’s and anime!
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Ha! Modern Conveniences!
Never mind that the electricity that such things take to run as well as the micro and radiation waves that come off things like that also a part of what’s ruining this planet.
This is not to say it would be banned and never allowed. . .
Look at what most TV is, lame ass reality TV shows and later night anime.
Now. I like my anime, but that’s about all I use my TV for, and games. . .
But look at what it’s doing to society, kids are lying around playing games and getting fat. I blame a lot of modern day conveniences for the state of the world.
I think if modern day devices were brought restrictions would need to be set in place.
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Fail to see the relationship between people on welfare and the corporate activities that add too much of the pollution that threatens us. Most of those on welfare aren’t' having children for the express purpose of remaining on welfare, where I live anyway. Instead, their major issue is affording decent reliable birth control.
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Where are you? Any decent sliding scale clinic will give you the depo shot (which is what I have and I get mine for 50 dollars on a sliding scale fee because I make less then the poverty rate so I don’t buy that crap)
The shot is one of the most advanced methods of birth control with a 99.9% prevention rate so if people can’t afford 50 dollars ever 3-4 months then you have issues.

As for the relationship you’re so curious about let me specify.
First let me state that companies and businesses are closely related to the population of the country so therefore one directly affects the other.
People on welfare depend on the money and food stamps that they get for free, or very cheaply, while in some cases people actually need this money most welfare people get so much per child they merely buy off brand items and have money left over.
I used to have a friend who lived in the projects of the city where everyone was on welfare and they all had big screen TVs and fancy furniture etc.
What millions of welfare people are really buying is electronics and such.
With a free and widespread demand so high companies are forced to produce more of these in demand products which causes more waste and pollution due to ineffective disposal of wastes.
Most companies are on a Supply and Demand state of mind. With the increase in welfare families as well as the amount of money made by government etc. employees the demand is raised, so the supply is up.
There’s you’re connection.
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--SageMother
It would be lovely if extremist groups could get their own planets! That way, they can enforce the laws they want and leave the rest of us to enjoy our lives as we see fit!
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Of course! Because living inhabitable planets are a dime a dozen. Brilliant!
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--cerise333
Maybe they could make a law or something that people can’t have more than a certain amount of kids
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I’m sure that countries like china have a restriction on children they can have.
It works in the way that the population goes down. . .
However, if a family wants a boy and conceives a girl what do you think happens?
They either gets put up for adoption of thrown in a trash can.
Think about what would have happened if your parents had you and didn’t want you, and just threw your newborn body into the trash.
I think certain restrictions need to be enforced, but not as severely as that.

I think I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time
I think I've forgotten this before. . .

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:45:14 AM #44387 Perm Link

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Well, I can tell you right now the main problem with this world is money. Stop and think about it, oil prices go up so gas prices go up so delivery of products via ground go up. This only means that the price of the product as to go up so that they can afford to ship it that way. That $.25 candy bar just became a $.50 candy bar. People crave money which makes the old saying "Money Is the Root of All Evil" true. Now I cannot pinpoint the exact items price it goes to that triggers everything else, if I could I would be a millionaire. Because all those people who have money to pay me to keep my mouth shut.

Everything wrong with this planet is connected to money. Do away with money and we might just have a chance. It takes money to eat, to clothe oneself, to keep a roof over our heads, and to get anywhere in this world. And because there are people want more money than what they already have they will keep doing what they do to get more money. Tearing down rain forests to provide oxygen to the world, polluting the atmosphere with factories, producing combustible engines that pollute the air, depleting the number of phishing the ocean, producing products that destroy the ozone and so many other things.

Now if you can figure out how to get rid of money in our society then you will just grabbed the golden ring.

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